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Is Barack (Barry) Obama (Soetoro) A Citizen? Update 5

Permalink 10/24/08 06:19, by Dozer, Categories: News, On the web, Political, Obama Citizenship , Tags: barack, berg, citizen, citizenship, civil action no: 08-cv- 04083, federal court, india, indonesia, obama, pakistan, passport, senate

Link: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931

Update 10/24/2008: It appears that the court website that posts all court filings and rulings in PDF format is no longer allowing viewing or download of documents. I am not sure what this means. Could be a ruling in the case is forthcoming, could mean the judge has gag-ordered and sealed the precedings. I just do not know and no information about this has come from the parties involved. www.obamacrimes.com</a> - Keeping a running update of all the goings on with the case.
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/ - Full listing of all filings pertaining to the case.

posted on World Net Daily 11:33 PM Oct 23rd 2008 I do not have confimation of this story but thought it should be passed along for further scrutiny.

Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth
'This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months'

The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualification to run for president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator's paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

Follow up:

The issue of Obama's birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii.

But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

Berg's claim that Obama has legally "admitted" the accusations included in his lawsuit, including that he was born in Mombosa, Kenya, by not responding to the allegations.

Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States.

His lawsuit is demanding that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate.

Berg has cited Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.

Since Obama filed only motions to dismiss the case and did not actually answer the claims, according to Rule 36, Obama has legally admitted he is not a natural-born citizen., asserted Berg, who has taken his information public through his website.

Berg addressed the existence of a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, featured on the Atlasshrugs2000 website, that suggests Obama was born in the city Aug. 4, 1961.

But Berg explained to Savage he believes Obama's mother was near pregnancy and unable to travel by plane, so Obama was born in Kenya. The family then traveled to Hawaii and registered the birth and submitted the newspaper announcement.

Besides Berg's lawsuit, several other court challenges also have been filed, including one in Washington state where petitioners are seeking to have the Washington secretary of state "verify Obama's eligibility" to serve prior to the election.

The claim states, "The 'certificate' that Mr. Obama has posted on his official Website is a 'Certification of Live Birth,' and not a 'Birth Certificate' from Hawaii. There is no indication on even this certificate as to specifically where the birth took place."

Berg said he believed it also was a complication that Obama's mother divorced his father, married and moved to Indonesia for several years and Obama attended school there at a time when, Berg said, only Indonesia citizens were allowed in schools. Records that are available from Indonesia revealed Obama was registered in school as Barry Soetoro, and his religion was listed as Islam.

When Obama later returned to Hawaii, within the United States, there should have been a government document affirming his citizenship, but that also cannot be found. If that was not processed properly, Berg said, Obama would be in a situation even worse than not being a natural-born citizen.

"If he didn't go through immigration, he now is illegal and has been an illegal alien. He couldn't even hold the position of senator for Illinois," Berg said.

Further, Berg said he suspected Obama's college records may indicate he received aid as a foreigner, and that's why those records have been withheld by the campaign.

"I really think it's because it probably indicates he's from Kenya, or Indonesia, or received foreign aid," Berg said.

"I feel very confident saying these things," Berg told Savage.

As stated, as of the time of this posting I do not have independent verification of this story, but if Mr. Berg does have this tape, well it may be game over for Obama.

You must decide for yourself who is telling the truth here. Mr. Obama has been very secretive about his origins. He has not been forthcoming about his birth, medical, school and work records. I know of no other Presidential candidate in my lifetime that has been able to dodge answering these types of questions.

Update: 10/25/08
For those of you who missed the Savage Interview of Berg here it is.
Part One

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